{"id":1125,"date":"2009-07-15T13:27:38","date_gmt":"2009-07-15T20:27:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/?p=1125"},"modified":"2010-05-30T15:27:44","modified_gmt":"2010-05-30T22:27:44","slug":"women-in-the-seducion-community","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/15\/women-in-the-seducion-community\/","title":{"rendered":"Women in The Seducion Community"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0<strong><em>&#8220;I think you&#8217;re right about your theory there,&#8221;<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Swinggcat tells me during a phone conversation several months back.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0&#8220;<em>Really?\u00a0 Which particular theory?\u00a0 What happened?&#8221;<\/em> I ask him.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Last Night I was at club ****** and ran into [very famous] PUA and his girlfriend.\u00a0 Started talking to them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..\u00a0\u00a0 and all I can say is, I wasn&#8217;t sure at first, but you&#8217;re spot on man&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Flashback to 3 days before the above conversation.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Josh [Swinggcat] and I are having a conversation about women involved within the seduction community and I tell him my theory.\u00a0 &#8220;<em>Women who are fascinated by the seduction community fall into 3 categories, man.\u00a0 You&#8217;ll be hard pressed to find one who does not fit one of these 3 categories.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0What are the three categories?\u00a0 Well, let&#8217;s define whom I am talking about first.\u00a0 There exists a small percentage of women who are absolutely intrigued by the Seduction Community.\u00a0 They know the characters, and the names. They follow the plot lines and the drama, and they seem to enjoy it.\u00a0 Some teach, some date, and some just loiter around.\u00a0 They fall into the following 3 categories.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Category 1:\u00a0 <strong>The Opportunist<\/strong> [AKA The Charlatan].\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0She has found a mean to make money from unsuspecting guys who will pay her money for dating advice.\u00a0 Who knows how she found the place, except that now it&#8217;s a source of income.\u00a0 Often times, this person is a pure charlatan looking to make money.\u00a0 Her advice is suspect at best and she can&#8217;t really do much for anyone, but she knows how to play the angle of &#8220;<em>Hey, it&#8217;s a Female giving advice so it must be better<\/em>&#8221; very well.\u00a0 In the end, she is no different than some of the boys giving dating advice.\u00a0 (Yep, the very same ones who couldn&#8217;t get a woman if they walked into a whorehouse with a dump truck full of gold bullions from Die Hard 3.)\u00a0 Though she plays the gender-card in her marketing, she is no different than other charlatan-esque dating coaches looking to make a buck.\u00a0 A swindler out to take cash from your wallet!<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Category 2:\u00a0 <strong>The Groupie.<\/strong>\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0This is the woman who is absolutely fascinated by the pick-up scene.\u00a0 She can&#8217;t stop talking how great the scene is, and she can exchange trivia knowledge about its history and quote excerpt from Neal Strauss&#8217; book. Neil&#8217;s book may look like the Bible, but this woman treats it as though it really is.\u00a0\u00a0 Given the chance, she will sleep with any bonafied PUA.\u00a0\u00a0 Sometimes, &#8220;Pick Up Artists&#8221; have a groupie become their girlfriend.\u00a0 What they don&#8217;t realize is that she is with them because of his PUA-status.\u00a0 She&#8217;ll very easily cheat on him sleep with another guy, so long as he has the same PUA Status.\u00a0 After all, this is the way of the groupie.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: center;\">Category 3:\u00a0 <strong>The Job Seeker<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0 This is the woman who otherwise would be making 10 dollars an hour while stuck in an office somewhere.\u00a0 She latches on to a so-called &#8220;PUA&#8221; because it&#8217;s an opportunity to have a job and travel.\u00a0 She is not necessarily manipulative.\u00a0 She meets a guy and likes the fact that he pays for her to travel to different countries meanwhile earning better money than she would have gotten otherwise.\u00a0 It may be meager pay, but it beats working as a customer service rep at the AT&amp;T cell phone company taking customer service issues from angry clients.\u00a0 And hey, you get the travel the world.\u00a0 Out of the 3 categories, this is probably the most respectable person. She is not ripping people off or conning them.\u00a0 Sometimes, the job seeker is simply looking for a meal ticket.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Hence, 99% of the time, when you see a woman deeply entrenched in the pick-up scene, she&#8217;ll fit one of the above mentioned categories, (or a combo of the two.) It&#8217;s a fascinating phenomenon that I have repeatedly observed.\u00a0 Granted, there may be an exception, and that&#8217;s why I gave it the 99 percent designation.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Back to Swinggcat:\u00a0 He meets the famous Pick Up Artist and his full fledged girlfriend.\u00a0 She doesn&#8217;t pay much attention to him at first, but she soon learns that he is the one and only &#8220;Swinggcat.&#8221;\u00a0 His character was heavily mentioned in Neil Strauss&#8217; Book and he was the one who was often going out with Neil in the early days.\u00a0 Her eyes light up!\u00a0 She is intrigued!\u00a0 She knows his described role in the book better than he.\u00a0\u00a0 She continues:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>You were so and so in the book!\u00a0 Before Neil moved to Hollywood, he was in Santa Monica, you were the one who was often going out with him.\u00a0\u00a0 In the beginning chapters of the book, Neil often talks about how you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Swinggcat is taken aback.\u00a0 The disinterested girl is now a parrot who can&#8217;t shut up. Her praise of him knows no bounds.\u00a0 He tells me, &#8220;<em>Ya know, I got the feeling, she&#8217;d easily go home with me.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t want to cause drama, but if that dude wasn&#8217;t around, she&#8217;d go home with me in a heartbeat.\u00a0 Your theory is spot on.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0This second category leaves ya with mixed emotions.\u00a0 You take the Charlatan for what she is: A con-artist of sorts trying to make money.\u00a0 You take the Job Seeker as someone who is looking for gainful employment.\u00a0 The Groupie leaves you with mixed emotions.\u00a0 On one hand, you&#8217;re disgusted, and on the other, you feel bad for them.\u00a0 There is sympathy there.\u00a0 You&#8217;re disgusted because she may have had sex with someone like Neil,\u00a0 and you also feel bad for them.\u00a0 Guys who come to community get here because they need help on some level, (social skills, getting over baggage, etc), and if a woman is here, she needs that helps ten times as much as the guy.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0In some ways, you think the most respectable person is the charlatan out of the 3.\u00a0 Then again, you wonder what it says about a group of people whose best and most respectable representative is the Charlatan???<\/p>\n<p>To go one step further, what does it really say about the perception of &#8220;Pick Up Artists&#8221; when these are the type of women you draw to yourself?<\/p>\n<p>I probably should mention my personal experience of direct correlation.\u00a0 Anytime I&#8217;ve met a girl who is worth keeping a round, she has hated the community. The more they&#8217;re &#8220;Girlfriend&#8221; material, the more they hate the seduction community. Granted, this is a small sample pool, because normally I don&#8217;t tell girls about the community.\u00a0 Yet, the reactions have been so traumatic that it&#8217;s something you can never forget.\u00a0 The scope why they&#8217;re so disgusted is outside the scope of this Blog entry.\u00a0\u00a0 Perhaps, a good topic for another day.<\/p>\n<p>What does it mean to you?\u00a0 Well, if you&#8217;re taking advice from such persons, then evaluate it and weigh the merit of the advice.\u00a0 IF you genuinely feel that it&#8217;s benefiting you, then by all means, continue.<\/p>\n<p>If see a guy who wears being a &#8220;Pick Up Artist&#8221; on his sleeve and his entire social lives revolves around talking &#8220;Pick Up&#8221; and &#8220;Game,&#8221; then you ought to understand a few things about the girlfriend he is parading around.\u00a0 Most likely, she is somehow making money from the endeavor (Teaching workshops, assisting\/traveling for free, etc,) she may be a groupie, and she very likely does not have a group of normal friends to hang with.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Common observations of a Pick Up Artist&#8217;s girlfriend that you&#8217;ll run into.\u00a0 You may observe a combination or all of these below (and keep in mind none of these are critical of anyone&#8217;s physical appearance):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>May not speak English very well.<\/li>\n<li>May be from a 3<sup>rd<\/sup> world Country.<\/li>\n<li>Seek gainful employment<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Will teach Bootcamps for food&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Doesn&#8217;t really have many other options,<\/li>\n<li>No circle of her own friends, (unfortunately)<\/li>\n<li>No seemingly normal circle of people to hang with<\/li>\n<li>Can discuss &#8220;Game&#8221; but can&#8217;t really discuss anything on a more global scale.<\/li>\n<li>May have heard of Barrack Obama somehow, but probably has no clue who Joe Biden is.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0What if you start dating a girl who is into the Seduction-community?\u00a0 You&#8217;re probably screwed, as discovered one of my acquaintances&#8230;.\u00a0 He had ordered dating material to get help, and somehow, his girlfriend got a hold of it.\u00a0 She became more fascinated with it than he, and long story short (without giving out details), she slept with a bunch of\u00a0 PUAs and may even be assisting in teaching workshops somewhere out there&#8230;.\u00a0 (Actually, she is)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Henceforth, if you happen to start dating someone tomorrow, and upon seeing a copy of the &#8220;Game&#8221; on a bookshelf, she starts salivating, then you&#8217;re in trouble.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not that the book is evil. It&#8217;s well written and it&#8217;s entertaining.\u00a0 The subject matter it covers, is not appealing to a female with a normal psyche.\u00a0 (At least, not on the level of becoming obsessed.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a fun read and that&#8217;s about it.)<\/p>\n<p>Anyhow, if you do get involved, do so at your own risk.\u00a0 Far be it from me to try to prevent you from having a happy relationship with somebody, but if she is fascinated with pickup&#8230;.. let&#8217;s just say, I did caution you.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0The Swinggcat incident occurred sometime around last October, and truth be told, I wrote this Blog post months ago.\u00a0 I just never posted it.\u00a0 A phone call from Sinn a short while back that started with, &#8220;I just have to say, you&#8217;re 100% correct on your theory&#8221; was a hint that perhaps it&#8217;s time for this post to actually be printed.\u00a0 It was a sign from the Dating Gods&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0It&#8217;s almost like you have to add this to the door test from Sunny in &#8220;<em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">A Bronx Tale<\/span><\/em>.&#8221;\u00a0 It&#8217;s almost safe to add the &#8220;The Game by Neil Strauss&#8221; test.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0 &#8220;<em>Listen to me kid.\u00a0 If she read that book or other related works from \u2018Pick Up Artists&#8217;, and she thought it was cool or fascinating, you dump her, and <strong>you dump her fast<\/strong>!\u00a0 Get rid of her.&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Immortalized words of Sonny live on.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0&#8220;I think you&#8217;re right about your theory there,&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0 Swinggcat tells me during a phone conversation several months back.\u00a0 \u00a0&#8220;Really?\u00a0 Which particular theory?\u00a0 What happened?&#8221; I ask him.\u00a0\u00a0 &#8220;Last Night&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[52],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1125","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-seduction-community-related-stuff"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1125","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1125"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1125\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1132,"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1125\/revisions\/1132"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1125"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1125"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1125"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}