{"id":1209,"date":"2009-08-25T11:29:54","date_gmt":"2009-08-25T18:29:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/?p=1209"},"modified":"2010-06-04T19:53:00","modified_gmt":"2010-06-05T02:53:00","slug":"are-these-pick-up-artists-any-good","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2009\/08\/25\/are-these-pick-up-artists-any-good\/","title":{"rendered":"Are These &#8220;Pick Up Artists&#8221; Any Good??"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Seduction Community Pick Up Artists<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>Received a rather lengthy comment to the last Blog entry on &#8220;The Ugly Truth&#8221; which deserves its own lengthy response.\u00a0 By the way, yes, I&#8217;ve been lagging a bit behind on Blog posts.\u00a0 It&#8217;s been a bit of a busy summer so I am going to pick up the pace here.\u00a0 Got a lot of good stuff coming up.\u00a0 So let&#8217;s get to the comment:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0 &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hi Cameron,<\/p>\n<p>Love your blog. Wanted to ask your opinion&#8230;just looking at the pic of Gerard butler above in the movie cover pic and you see he is in good shape and dressed nicely&#8230;nothing weird or flashy, just dress shoes, decent jeans, collar shirt and blazer. Most of my buddies who get quality ass make money and more or less dress like this&#8230;I&#8217;m curious,,, why didnt the pua community ever promote dressing like this (which is clearly far superior than dressing like a clown)?<\/p>\n<p>And while we are at it, I am truly curious&#8230;and if you dont feel like answering this then I understand&#8230;but how good are these puas in real life? I look at guys like matador, jdog etc and they just look weird and gay and Im sure they can pickup club leftovers but I have a hard time seeing them having nice normal girlfriends with quote un quote social value.<br \/>\nand mystery..while interesting, is he really good at walking into a nice setting with classy people and just banging the hottest girl or is he just banging some club trash? I mean, the guy calls himself the worlds greatest pua and he was making a big stink about banging some russian chick or something&#8230;some immigrant russian wannabe model club party chick certainly does not seem to me to be the pinnacle of dating high status women&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>at the end of the day I have noticed a pattern, and while there are exceptions all over the place if you look hard, the pattern generally seems to hold&#8230;the guys who have their shit together (generally referring to having a career or seriously focusing on something worthwhile) and have a proper social circle and do cool things with this social circle never seem to lack pretty girls and are always meeting new ones through events etc.<\/p>\n<p>maybe I am smoking crack, but if you have your shit together and a cool group of friends and are reasonably fit, the need for routines etc goes out the door and you have better and more ass than even the god mystery&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>what is your take?<\/p>\n<p>love your blog!<\/p>\n<p>Theman<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Hey &#8220;TheMan&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Your comment comes from an astute observation that it deserves its own blog entry.\u00a0 (By the way, how about using a real first name, unless you have such a really uncommon name like <em>Rumpelstiltskin.<\/em>&#8220;)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0Firstly, why don&#8217;t the &#8220;PUA&#8221; types dress a bit more like guys who &#8220;Get a lot of ass&#8221; as you put it?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0I am not even sure where to start with that one.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a combination of things.\u00a0 It&#8217;s being socially mis-calibrated, not having a sense of what is cool to begin with, and engaging in too much mental masturbation over evolutionary psychology.\u00a0 So you have that group of guys who start a trend and then new guys coming in are very impressionable so they follow suit.\u00a0 We&#8217;re entitled to make our share of mistakes, and I certainly have made mine, but we ought to learn from them as well.\u00a0 Dressing up like a poorly dressed gay guy or looking like a clown peacocking is not going to wash over well in normal society.\u00a0 In a PUA gathering, you&#8217;ll be a big hit.\u00a0 That this trend still continues to this day is a bit juvenile.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0As for promoting that type of dressing: I don&#8217;t talk about fashion much in the Blog but I certainly advocate dressing up like you have your shit together.\u00a0 Stephen Nash is someone who goes much more in depth regarding fashion and upgrading your wardrobe like someone who gets what he is doing.\u00a0 Then again, I don&#8217;t consider myself a &#8220;PUA&#8221; and I am certain, neither does Stephen.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0And keep in mind, this becomes increasingly important as you get a bit older.\u00a0 You can pull off something ridiculous in your early 20s because people give you more slack.\u00a0 &#8220;Heck, he is 22&#8230;.He is just a kid.&#8221;\u00a0 That same outfit when you&#8217;re 32, is going leave people a bit befuddled.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>How good are these guys?\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Well, you just have to read between the lines as you read the Blog sometimes. ;-)\u00a0 There is probably something useful you can learn from various teachers, but you have to be able to distinguish that 20% that is useful, and discard the 80% that is useless.\u00a0 Keep in mind that most of the stuff is designed for a certain demographic of women.<\/p>\n<p>These two Blog entries define that in detail.\u00a0 If you have not read them, they&#8217;re a must-read.\u00a0 If you have read them, it&#8217;d be beneficial to read them again.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Demographics: <a href=\"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2008\/10\/28\/do-you-know-your-demographic\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2008\/10\/28\/do-you-know-your-demographic\/<\/a><br \/>\n\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0Archetypes: <a href=\"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/24\/how-archetypes-affect-your-dating-success-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/24\/how-archetypes-affect-your-dating-success-part-1\/<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Lastly, remember that the &#8220;Pick Up Girls&#8221; material is designed mainly for <strong>cold-approaches<\/strong>.\u00a0 Cold-approaching is by far the toughest way to meet girls and by far the most inefficient.\u00a0 A warm-approach in a social setting is going to be far superior due to basic laws of human nature.\u00a0 Heck, I&#8217;ve even had situations where a girl really disliked me in a cold-approached situation thinking I am just an &#8220;Asshole.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0A few weeks later, we end up in the same social circle, and after a couple of weeks we&#8217;re pals and we all get along.\u00a0 Then that same girl hinted that she wanted to go out with me after our repeated social interactions.\u00a0 That all started with them disliking me in the initial cold-approach.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just the way it goes.\u00a0 People are suspicious of strangers a bit, and we do what we can to bypass that natural apprehensiveness, to create a sense of comfort and familiarity, but there is only so much that we can do in 5 minutes.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0As for your buddies in the social circles, they sound like they&#8217;re cool guys with cool friends, who have their shit together.\u00a0 Part of my emphasis on teaching the proper Attributes is to help guys become the proverbial &#8220;Cool Guys&#8221; who then attract Cool Friends, get invited to parties.\u00a0 So I&#8217;d be amiss if I didn&#8217;t recommend my audio product at the end of all this. ;-)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.attractwomenanywhere.com\/audiocourse.shtml\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.attractwomenanywhere.com\/audiocourse.shtml<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0So, no you&#8217;re not smoking crack.\u00a0 Well, if you are, it certainly doesn&#8217;t show from this particular comment.\u00a0 Have your shit together, be reasonably fit, and meet your group of friends, is a good recipe.\u00a0 I&#8217;d add that you ought to work on yourself to gain the necessary attributes, such as developing social intelligence, conversational skills, and the ability to have fun\/project emotions.\u00a0 Without the latter, you still struggle a bit even in social situations.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0As for &#8220;Mystery, Style&#8221; and the rest of the gang&#8230;. You really have to ask yourself a question.\u00a0 I mean &#8220;You&#8221; as in every single person who gets involved with the seduction community.\u00a0 Are you here to engage in some sort of a cult behavior and follow in the footsteps of your supreme leader?\u00a0\u00a0 OR are you hear to attract more women to you, have a better choice of girls to date and so forth?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0If it&#8217;s the latter, then absorb the information that&#8217;s useful to you, improve your skills, and forget about all the grandstanding and cultish behavior.\u00a0 Focus on what&#8217;s beneficial to your life. Learn a few useful tips from those guys that you think may apply to you.\u00a0 Figure out what type of Girls\/Women you desire, and become a &#8220;Cooler&#8221; guy who naturally attracts the type of women you desire.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Seduction Community Pick Up Artists . 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