{"id":2312,"date":"2010-07-11T09:45:40","date_gmt":"2010-07-11T16:45:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/?p=2312"},"modified":"2011-01-13T17:31:06","modified_gmt":"2011-01-14T00:31:06","slug":"when-pick-up-artists-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/11\/when-pick-up-artists-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"When Pick Up Artists Debate&#8230;.."},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Mystery: Erik Von Markovic vs.\u00a0 Mode 1: Roger Allan Currie.<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>Quick Primer: There is a \u201cseduction community\u201d out there where \u201cPick Up Artists\u201d and their rivals discuss various methods of attracting women, picking up chicks, and getting laid.\u00a0 For the most part, I try to avoid it like a plague.\u00a0 Yes, I know that I\u2019ve fraternized with the head honchos and the \u201cWho\u2019s who\u201d of the community, but I\u2019ve moved on from it.\u00a0 Except for a handful of people I keep in touch with, I avoid the individuals, events, and whatever else that is community related.<\/p>\n<p>I still receive loads of emails from various guys who want to ask me questions ranging from a situation with a particular girl to \u201c<em>Who\u2019s full of shit<\/em>?\u201d\u00a0 to \u201c<em>What do you think of this drama?<\/em>\u201d\u00a0 The latest email tells me there is a debate between Mystery, Erik Von Markovic as seen on VH-1\u2019s Pick Up Artist, versus a guy who calls himself Mode One, otherwise known as Roger Allen Currie.<\/p>\n<p>While I am sure enthused folk will be listening with more glee than if they were watching an Obama vs. McCain Presidential debate,\u00a0 I will be happily skipping it..<\/p>\n<p>However, a lot of you want to know which system is better and why.\u00a0 What should you do?\u00a0 Who is right?\u00a0 Whom should you follow?\u00a0 What\u2019s more effective?<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Whose advice will help YOU attract girls? <\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>I am going to give you a crash course right now!\u00a0 Brace yourself.\u00a0 Maybe go grab a cup of coffee, a beer, or beverage of your choice and come back.\u00a0 Here is what\u2019s going to happen:<\/p>\n<p>Erik Von Markovic will promote Mystery Method:\u00a0 A 9-step linear system where you have to stick to very rigid rules.\u00a0 You can\u2019t be direct with women, nor can you show interest until you have \u201cDemonstrated Higher Value.\u201d\u00a0 (It never assumes you have higher value Basically, you\u2019re a jerkoff who has to prove himself first.)<\/p>\n<p>You should always start indirect, then transition later.\u00a0\u00a0 Then, it gets more complicated. If you see a proverbial \u201c9\u201d, you can\u2019t approach her right away.\u00a0 You ought to first social proof yourself and he has a myriad of techniques for that as well.<\/p>\n<p>Roger Alan Currie will promote his Mode One:\u00a0 My basic understanding is that he believes men communicate in 3 or 4 modes.\u00a0 Mode One guys are the ones who are super-direct, and there rest are chumps and dickheads.\u00a0 (or something like that.)\u00a0 His mode-one communication can be extremely direct, graphic, and sexual.<\/p>\n<p>So which is better?\u00a0 What\u2019s better for YOU?\u00a0\u00a0 Both systems have pros and cons.\u00a0\u00a0 OK, here is a quick breakdown, and believe me, I could write volumes on this shit.\u00a0 But I did say it\u2019s a crash course.<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Mystery Method:<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pros: Encourages you to approach.\u00a0 Gives you a few opinion-openers and such in order to enable you to start up conversations with women.\u00a0 It gives you some ideas of structure and a whole bunch of contrived conversational topics you can talk about with girls.<\/p>\n<p>Cons:<\/p>\n<p>1. \u00a0 Always assumes you\u2019re lesser than the girl.\u00a0 You\u2019re basically some schlemiel loser with little or no value who has to always be proving himself.\u00a0 Limited to one way of thinking, it does not allow you to approach directly, or flirt overtly.\u00a0 It does not assume the possibility that at a party, a woman might actually like you just for whatever reason.\u00a0 Imagine that:\u00a0 A Girl can actually like you for your personality without you having to run &#8220;9 Steps of Game.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Through conditioning, it forces to man to see women as an enemy to be conquered.\u00a0 Even if you don\u2019t have this belief, by practicing this method, your subconscious will adopt the above destructive beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 Also, It doesn\u2019t take time to train your attributes.\u00a0 Example: While it may provide you with some rehearsed stories to tell women, it does not teach you HOW to be an engaging storyteller.<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0 In the extreme, it may make you a basket case, and possibly mentally ill.<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Mode One:<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pros: Encourages you to have more balls.\u00a0 It gives you an opportunity a different side where you\u2019re more ballsy and display more guts.\u00a0 It encourages you to be more masculine and let\u2019s face it, if you showed more balls and were more gutsy, you\u2019d have more success.<\/p>\n<p>Cons:<\/p>\n<p>1. Limits you to certain type of women.\u00a0\u00a0 With statements like, \u201cI\u2019d like to tap that ass\u201d, you\u2019re limiting yourself to a very specific type, and I think you know exactly what I mean.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There is a time and place for that sort of thing, but this method does not teach you SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE.\u00a0 Social intelligence is one of the most essential attributes most dating-advice seekers lack.<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 Much like Mystery method, it does not really train your attributes.\u00a0 (Would you care to guess who actually DOES teach attributes? Take a wild guess\u2026. Come on.\u00a0 Indulge me.)<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0 Also being direct is limiting in some ways.\u00a0 There are times where it\u2019s not socially pleasant or conducive.\u00a0 In a small social gathering, you can\u2019t tell every girl you find attractive that you want to bang them silly.\u00a0 Maybe I\u2019m old fashioned but having a little social conversation might be a better way to go.\u00a0 Maybe learning how to talk about casual stuff while flirting through your subtext IS A BETTER Way to reach women.<\/p>\n<p>In the extreme, it\u2019ll make you a rude, inconsiderate, socially maladjusted, prick who is not getting invited back to parties or social gatherings.<\/p>\n<p>Just remember that you can opt to be a cool, confident guy with high self-esteem without coming off as a socially unpleasant weirdo.<\/p>\n<p>Do you really want to be that outcast of society?<\/p>\n<p>Any Questions?<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>Both systems are limited, and both systems are dogmatic.\u00a0 Neither one really takes the time to enable you to improve your social skills too much.\u00a0 Each will improve you a little at bit first.\u00a0 Think of it as a performance-enhancing supplement..\u00a0 Small doses will improve your game, but after that small dose, you\u2019re going to want more.\u00a0 More of it doesn\u2019t make you better.\u00a0 It just means kidney failure.<\/p>\n<p>Both systems will have staunch supporters on Internet forums defending it with the zealotry of a Born again Christian or a suicide bomber. They\u2019re all a bit misguided and that they support one particular method so strongly should speak volumes:\u00a0 That they don\u2019t see the limitations of these methods only means they\u2019re not that successful themselves nor do they completely understand the social dynamics.\u00a0\u00a0 It means run for the hills.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, follow whatever \u201cMethod\u201d your heart desires.\u00a0\u00a0 Enjoy the podcast should you listen.\u00a0 If you have questions or are confused, come back to this article.\u00a0 It\u2019ll be hear to clear away confusions. (And feel free to provide feedback comments if it serves as entertainment.)\u00a0\u00a0 If you&#8217;re looking at the podcast as a means to help guide you in the future, then you&#8217;re already in a world of shit.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the day, if you want to become better at attracting women, take a hard look at yourself. Be honest.\u00a0 What area do you need improvements in?\u00a0 Look at from a macro level.\u00a0 A perspective from afar (as opposed to openers and phone number tricks)<\/p>\n<p>There are three major areas that factor in.\u00a0 It was one of the first articles I wrote on this Blog.\u00a0 Here it is again:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/attractwomenanywhere.com\/blog\/2008\/08\/18\/what-game-really-is\/\" target=\"_blank\">What &#8220;Game&#8221; Really Is<\/a><\/p>\n<p>From that outline, you can determine in which areas you need to make drastic improvements.\u00a0 You do that and work to improve; you\u2019ll become more attractive.\u00a0 You get sucked into methods and such, and you get lost in oblivion of \u201cPick-Up,\u201d a vicious cycle which you\u2019ll chasing your own tail, trying to figure out why your interactions with women aren\u2019t worth talking about.<\/p>\n<p>Keep sight of the goal: It&#8217;s to improve your social skills and improve your self esteem.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mystery: Erik Von Markovic vs.\u00a0 Mode 1: Roger Allan Currie. . 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