How Do You Ask A Girl Out On A Date?
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This is the toughest thing for some guys to do sometimes, and to make matters worse, trying to beat around the bush only compounds the issue.
Typical scenario: Guy reads dating advice online. He wants to be a player or discreet, or whatever. He starts trying all sorts of clever techniques to ask a girl out. The problem essentially is that a lot of guys want to use player lines and styles while they lack any sort of congruency with that vibe.
Sometimes, the basics work the best. I mean something cliché that you see in the movies. So what’s the obstruction?
Well, everyone wants to be a player. Maybe not every single dude, but a lot of the guys who seek dating advice seek so under the guise of becoming the proverbial Lothario, a Don-Juan, a ladies man, or the modern day Cassanova. Now days, they call it being a “Player.” (I’ll get back to the reason why this is later.)
Sometimes, becoming normal is the most important thing. Then take it up a notch from there. Hence, some of the advice seekers would be so far better off asking a girl on a date.
Can I take you out sometime? (or would you like to go dinner with me)
[PS. And as you know, I don’t even endorse dinner dates, but you get the idea.]
Man, they’re so cliché, passé , old-school, they’re so…….. 1950s, like Richie Cunningham from “Happy Days.”
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Right? Yep, it may be all of that, and it’d probably work better than what a lot of guys seeking dating advice are using right now. Guys find refuge on the Internet to seek advice regarding Dating, but often times, ending up stepping backwards. They try devising clever schemes and roundabout unconventional means to try and ask a girl out.
They’ll talk about getting a number close, or a “Bridge” or whatever vernacular is the current popular flavor of the day. Surely, the terminology will change, but the concept is the same: They’ll ask a girl out in nonchalant ways such as, “We should continue this conversation later. How do we go about doing that?”
This is to entice her, or perhaps drop the subtle hint that she should offer the phone number herself. Some guys don’t even do that. They send an invitation to some obscure event without trying to imply the context that it’s a date. Most of the time, it doesn’t work very we for those particular dudes. Most such guys would be just better off trying the “Old-School” way most often.
But wait, I can almost hear the yelling and screaming through my monitor now:
“But that’s what losers do, pundits and hardliners scream and shout. What? Ask a girl out? Go on a traditional date! Ha! That’s what chumps do.”
Well, Perhaps, but then I’d give a thumbs up to the chump who is out with a girl he likes on a traditional date, than a guy alone by himself under the illusion that he somehow is better than that chump.
I have a buddy (not in anyway involved with dating advice) who dates often. His personal favorite thing to do is ask girls out on a dinner date. Personally I highly advise against “Dinner Dates” and if you’ve read my Ebook, you are already aware. That discussion is for another day. Girls who are interested follow through, and no, it’s not because they want a free dinner (for the smart asses reading this right now.) It should be said that my buddy is not rich or über -good looking. However, he does dress well, and comes across as having his shit together.
So, why am I advocating the old-school method for some men?
For a variety of reasons:
A. It makes sense in the girl’s perception of reality. This is a very concept that deserves its own article. However, for the time being, it’s important to understand that she has a certain understanding of how things work in the dating realm.
There are years of conditioning that have lead to where she is now. Let’s observe:

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There were the middle school dances that started when she was 12 or 13 years old.
There were high school events.
There was homecoming.
Of course, there was THE PROM!
A guy asked a girl out and they went to the prom together, and then it just built on from there. Not to mention countless movies that are built around this dynamic. How many teenage romantic comedies can you name just now that are built around a girl or hapless guy trying to score that big prom date for that ever so significant high school event?
Being asked out on a date in socially conditioned and ingrained in our psyches, at least, with most of us in the Western part of the world. (I am not aware how this works within a tribal society in the Serengeti plains of Africa. Forgive my limitations here.)
And by the way, if you’re a cool suave motherfucker like Mickey Rourke, go ahead and break all conventional rules. Be the cool charming guy from nine and a half weeks. Take her on a whirlwind ride and be the romance hero from a romance novel. Wait, if you were that, you wouldn’t be online seeking dating advice. (Between you and me, let’s be honest here.)
So you’re not a Mickey Rourke. You want to be Mickey Rourke, but in order to become that guy, you need to have more girls. In order to get girls, you have to start somewhere. So maybe you start the traditional way.
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With more dates, you get more experience. With more experience, you gain more comfort with women, and your confidence grows. When your confidence peaks, well, maybe you will be one cool suave mofo. See, it all makes sense. (And that’s why this is the best blog of its kind on the Internet, but I digress.)
One thing we can surely on agree on is that meeting in secret lairs in subterranean dwellings with other unidentified organisms is not the way to go. So then, back to something conventional: IT makes sense to her
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B. There is no misunderstanding of context.
Going on a date automatically implies a romantic context. There is no misunderstanding, nothing lost in translation. After that evening, either you’ll want to see each other again, or you won’t. There is no misunderstanding of WHY you two are spending time together. Often times, guys wonder if she knows what his intentions are. Chances are pretty good that shoe does. However, asking her out on a “Date” per se puts some sort of a stamp on it. It’s better than asking for an email address or a facebook.
Sometimes nothing screams “What A Big Pussy” louder than asking a girl for her Facebook contact info.
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C. It saves time. Some guys are actually busy as they have careers and a life.
I’ve come across guys who have their own careers, work, and so forth. I’ve come across all types. I’ve met guys who were married and now are divorced finding themselves back on the single scene. Maybe YOU can relate to this? They get online, receive some decent advice, but then they also find themselves dressing up in outlandish gear trying to make conversation with 23 year old Attention-Deficit Disorder suffering idiots in a night club full of sharks.
This is probably not the best use of your time, strengths, or resources. It’s best to play to your strengths.
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Is “Asking A Girl On A Date” an end-all, be-all, solution? Not at all. If you lack skills to make playful banter conversation, or lack skills to flirt and have fun with girls, you’re still going to have to develop those skills. For certain men, it’ll be a terrible idea. If you’re too nervous to even chat with a girl, you may be better off making some casual progress first before you start going the traditional route. There are obviously various styles of dates and methods of asking someone out, and perhaps, I’ll do an article on that some other time.
For the moment, however, undoubtedly there are men who will come across this blog article and they’ll identify themselves as guys similar to my aforementioned buddy. Well put together, (groomed, clean, well dressed, and looking like you take care of yourself), these particular guys will benefit MORE from just asking a girl to go on a date than trying to use clever secret roundabout techniques to get a girl out. Asking a girl out will be far more efficient and effective than asking for “Facebook” or inviting her to some random party that you may be attending, and so forth.
But then, what if you want to be a player and come across as smooth? That’s fine. That’ll come with experience. You just have to ask yourself one question:
– Are you looking to come across as a “Player” because this means you have more women around you, OR, are you just interested in appearing “Cool” in front of your buddies, coworkers, and other people in general?
That, you have to answer for yourself. While you contemplate that, remember sometimes the answer lies in simplicity. Sometimes that simplicity is,
“Would you join me for a drink sometime!”
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Cameron your blog is always fun to read and has great information.
Q 1) I know you are not a fan of seduction community and most of its coaches. I have heard from many people from the community that if a guy takes a girl for a dinner date, in her mind she starts viewing him as a potential boyfriend/ courtship doesn’t work etc. Additionally, girls don’t have sex very soon with guys who they consider as potential boyfriends/they play hard to get etc. What are your views regarding this thinking?
Q 2) Secondly- Can you write an article about the purpose of the first date?
I am making this request because everybody in the seduction community focuses on the “logistics” aspect only when it comes to first dates and everybody in the seduction community seems obsessed with closing the deal on a first date. Personally, I feel if a guy is only thinking about how to have sex on the first date, he might be telegraphing a lot of sexual neediness and might turn off the girl.
Cam is back in form!
Cam spot on. Community Gurus and the followers have over complicated the whole male and female interaction to the point we have forgotton common sense, Instead look for the next technique or technology to get a date.
This has been a really helpful post for me. Even though being a wise-cracking player is way out of character for me, I thought it was the only way to get women interested. I dropped all the stuff and I’m starting to have decent conversations.
I’m shocked at how ingrained my (lame) negging is – it’s actually kind of hard to turn off, but I’m so much more effective when I do.
You should write a whole series on “pickup for normal guys”.
Hey Cam, off topic. Are you excited for the upcoming Strikeforce Heavy Weight Tourney. I am, Overeem just won the 2010 K1 tourney and is favoured to win. What do you think?
Take it easy!
Hey Funguy,
I don’t really like going to dinner as an idea for the first date. However, you’re asking about whether the more traditional route works.
Dude, obviously it works because it’s been going on for an entire century. To be more on point: How do you FRAME the event? You could put it in the context of a date, or you could try to put it in more “Casual” just hang out perspective.
Women go on dates often, and that’s how they describe the event to their girlfriends. “Hey, I went on a date with this guy and…..”
As for first date: That deserves an article at some point. Seduction gurus are obsessed with “Getting Laid” so that’s their chief goal at all time.
Once you sleep with number of women, then trying to get laid is not that big of a goal. You realize something it’s not even worth the hassle of continuing to see certain girls whom you’re not really into.
For the moment, Focus on two things:
1. Having Fun together (don’t take it super seriously)
2. Seeing if you two click and if she is someone worth going out with again.
Cameron
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Casper,
I am excited for the Strike Force tournament. Want to see how Fedor Bounces back or if he’s lost a step, so to speak. As for Overeem, I’ll buy into him once he beats ONE person of significance.
There is always a position to give out the most effective way to preserve a date.
This post really gave me much of good stuffs to share with..
I would like to comment about how low the probability of a guy getting a date really is that is unless he is attending events that are strictly designed to bring members of the opposite sex together. or if he does not use eharmony or something else on line. or he has a friend or someone else helping him find a partner. now this is for all the ladies out their that are a wize at math. what I am going to tell you will shock you. lets start with a man that is say late twenties early thirties he is looking for a woman between the ages of 25 and 35. it would be safe to say that 60 out of every 100 woman between the ages of 25 and 35 are married. it would be I think pretty safe to say that the vast majority of married woman would not go out on dates with guys. I don’t think most morally conscience guys would date married woman either so we will exclude all married woman that would leave us with 40 woman that could be available. now if we were to assume that this guy would be somewhat selective that is he would tend to ask woman out that are at least average or somewhat above average looking height weight proportionate. that have other pleasant qualities. woman that fit this profile would have an 80 percent chance of either having a boyfriend or being involved with a man to some degree. this would leave us with 8 woman out of the remaing 40 woman that are highly available because they are not currently involved with any guys not going out with any guys at this time. now we have 32 woman left that are involved with a guy to some degree but not married. I think it would be safe to say that 16 out of the 32 woman between the ages of 25 to 35 that are involved with a guy are seriously involved and probably engaged. woman in this age category are very likly to be considering marriage if they are not already married. this leaves us with lets say 2 woman out of the 16 that would still consider going out on dates in spite of the fact that they are engaged. I think very few woman would date other guys if they are engaged to a guy. this leaves us with just 10 yes ladies just ten ladies out of 100. now of the 16 woman left that have a boyfriend or are just going out with a guy say 3 of them would still go out with other guys that leaves us with a total of 13 woman that are available. now lets say it would be safe to say that 5 out of the 13 remaining lades that are available would be interested in dating a guy that asked them out this is something more than a third of the ladies but not quite half I think this is a reasonable percentage. that means that for every 100 woman between the ages of 25 and 35 their are just 5 woman available. this is only 1 out of every 20 woman. now say that theirs only a 40 percent chance that any one of these 5 woman will go out on a second date with this guy this means only 2 woman out of 100 will go out with this guy more than once so in the end this guy will find only 2 woman out of every 100 hundred woman between the ages of 25 and 35 willing to go out with him more than one time.
Great post.. Men should always make little effort in pleasing the girls they want to date with.. Effort counts a lot..
This girl is so quiet and i think i like her.we are in the same faculty at the university.i minor a course from their department two years ago and thats when i notice her.am a shy guy and i do talk less and i have never woo a lady completely a stranger.please how do i start.i dont want her to turn me down.the last time i ever want to shake her, she quickly withdraw her hand .i think i over do it.i like her so much and even nursing this feelings i could marry her if she gels.what do i do?lol
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